Comments on: The Torture Playlist Stickers http://groundswellcollective.com/2008/07/15/the-torture-playlist-stickers/ Groundswell is a loose affiliation of critical cultural producers who work at the intersection of art and activism. Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:13:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ismhttp://groundswellcollective.com/2008/07/15/the-torture-playlist-stickers/comment-page-1/#comment-4933 ism Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:46:08 +0000 http://blog.groundswellcollective.com/?p=822#comment-4933 I think we might have something similar to say - just in different ways. Apathy doesn't work. Check this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1EFAXT2CvA Hope you guys get in touch with us. -ism ism@ismmusic.com www.ismmusic.com I think we might have something similar to say – just in different ways.

Apathy doesn’t work. Check this out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1EFAXT2CvA

Hope you guys get in touch with us.

-ism
ism@ismmusic.com
http://www.ismmusic.com

]]> By: Justine Sharrokhttp://groundswellcollective.com/2008/07/15/the-torture-playlist-stickers/comment-page-1/#comment-3295 Justine Sharrok Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:54:18 +0000 http://blog.groundswellcollective.com/?p=822#comment-3295 I'm the one who originally put together the songlist for Mother Jones. The sticker campaign is great! Using the music aspect seems like a good way to raise awareness about the issue--especially since it might reach people who don't normally follow the details about Guantanamo etc. My only fear is that it could further people's perception that we aren't really "torturing"--ie all we are doing is playing music. I'm so glad to see the conversation here hasn't gone in the direction of making light of it, as it has elsewhere all too often. I’m the one who originally put together the songlist for Mother Jones. The sticker campaign is great! Using the music aspect seems like a good way to raise awareness about the issue–especially since it might reach people who don’t normally follow the details about Guantanamo etc. My only fear is that it could further people’s perception that we aren’t really “torturing”–ie all we are doing is playing music. I’m so glad to see the conversation here hasn’t gone in the direction of making light of it, as it has elsewhere all too often.

]]> By: tarashttp://groundswellcollective.com/2008/07/15/the-torture-playlist-stickers/comment-page-1/#comment-3292 taras Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:05:37 +0000 http://blog.groundswellcollective.com/?p=822#comment-3292 These really "stick" it to the Man! And aren't those artists going to be so pissed when they find out! He he he! Those stupid store workers who will have to peel off the stickers should know better than working for evil corporations! Tee hee, isn't activism fun! I'm off to read some Chomsky now, later! These really “stick” it to the Man! And aren’t those artists going to be so pissed when they find out! He he he!

Those stupid store workers who will have to peel off the stickers should know better than working for evil corporations! Tee hee, isn’t activism fun! I’m off to read some Chomsky now, later!

]]> By: Kakarikihttp://groundswellcollective.com/2008/07/15/the-torture-playlist-stickers/comment-page-1/#comment-3286 Kakariki Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:53:56 +0000 http://blog.groundswellcollective.com/?p=822#comment-3286 Well, hell, if I was one of those artists I'd be seriously pissed if I knew that the military was doing that with my music. In fact I would be taking serious legal action against them. Especially the childrens shows! I think this action is quite clever because it shows the artists and their representation that consumers are making associations between the military and their music. Now some bands might not care, good on them, let their fans decide if they agree with them. The comparison between this and the 'Tipper Sticker' is ludicrous. The parental warning stickers were an arbitrary attempt at censorship. These stickers are an overt attempt at anti-torture grass roots activism. Oh and the spam captcha words I got for this comment were 'almost freedom' which I find quite ironic! xox Well, hell, if I was one of those artists I’d be seriously pissed if I knew that the military was doing that with my music. In fact I would be taking serious legal action against them. Especially the childrens shows!

I think this action is quite clever because it shows the artists and their representation that consumers are making associations between the military and their music. Now some bands might not care, good on them, let their fans decide if they agree with them.

The comparison between this and the ‘Tipper Sticker’ is ludicrous. The parental warning stickers were an arbitrary attempt at censorship. These stickers are an overt attempt at anti-torture grass roots activism.

Oh and the spam captcha words I got for this comment were ‘almost freedom’ which I find quite ironic!

xox

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://groundswellcollective.com/2008/07/15/the-torture-playlist-stickers/comment-page-1/#comment-3270 Anonymous Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:43:02 +0000 http://blog.groundswellcollective.com/?p=822#comment-3270 #3, I sincerely hope you are bluffing, as I see a gigantic difference between being proudly against censorship and proudly supportive of music being used for torture. Only the most terrible of people would enjoy knowing that their art has been used to break people of their spirits, their minds, and their wills to live. #3, I sincerely hope you are bluffing, as I see a gigantic difference between being proudly against censorship and proudly supportive of music being used for torture.
Only the most terrible of people would enjoy knowing that their art has been used to break people of their spirits, their minds, and their wills to live.

]]> By: Derek C. F. Pegritzhttp://groundswellcollective.com/2008/07/15/the-torture-playlist-stickers/comment-page-1/#comment-3263 Derek C. F. Pegritz Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:18:47 +0000 http://blog.groundswellcollective.com/?p=822#comment-3263 You do realize that jackasses--like <em>me</em>, for one--will gladly put these on their <em>own</em> recordings, especially if some of it is written to be nasty and discordant. Congratulations, you just created the next Parental Warning sticker, which most artists regard as a badge of pride when they find it affixed to their CDs. You do realize that jackasses–like me, for one–will gladly put these on their own recordings, especially if some of it is written to be nasty and discordant.

Congratulations, you just created the next Parental Warning sticker, which most artists regard as a badge of pride when they find it affixed to their CDs.

]]> By: Brycehttp://groundswellcollective.com/2008/07/15/the-torture-playlist-stickers/comment-page-1/#comment-3259 Bryce Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:52:40 +0000 http://blog.groundswellcollective.com/?p=822#comment-3259 This sends no message but "The person that put this here is mad and doesn't know who to take it out on." Seriously, this is not a message - it's a scream of anger. But you're screaming at the wrong people. This sends no message but “The person that put this here is mad and doesn’t know who to take it out on.”

Seriously, this is not a message – it’s a scream of anger. But you’re screaming at the wrong people.

]]> By: James Davidhttp://groundswellcollective.com/2008/07/15/the-torture-playlist-stickers/comment-page-1/#comment-3257 James David Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:22:13 +0000 http://blog.groundswellcollective.com/?p=822#comment-3257 Brent, I'm glad you posed the question. I thought it was ambiguous myself, and I agree that it warrants explaining. Many of the artists know about the playlist, and some are outraged. The goal is not to disparage them. (Metallica, though, deserves the criticism for James Hetfield's comments.) The effort is simply an awareness raising campaign about the use of torture by the American military. By placing the stickers on CDs, where they are unexpected, it interrupts an otherwise routine act (buying an album) with a bit of activism. Brent, I’m glad you posed the question. I thought it was ambiguous myself, and I agree that it warrants explaining. Many of the artists know about the playlist, and some are outraged. The goal is not to disparage them. (Metallica, though, deserves the criticism for James Hetfield’s comments.)

The effort is simply an awareness raising campaign about the use of torture by the American military. By placing the stickers on CDs, where they are unexpected, it interrupts an otherwise routine act (buying an album) with a bit of activism.

]]> By: Brent Vhttp://groundswellcollective.com/2008/07/15/the-torture-playlist-stickers/comment-page-1/#comment-3256 Brent V Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:57:37 +0000 http://blog.groundswellcollective.com/?p=822#comment-3256 I'm not sure what statement this is going to make. By sticking these stickers on CDs, there seems to be an implication that the artists knew about and/or condoned the torture. In other words, this seems like a protest against the artists not a protest against torture. I’m not sure what statement this is going to make. By sticking these stickers on CDs, there seems to be an implication that the artists knew about and/or condoned the torture. In other words, this seems like a protest against the artists not a protest against torture.

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